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Pinned and Reborn: The Gloria Vice Debate

It’s not every day that one of our wrestlers divides the internet, the therapy world, and the autism advocacy community all at once.

But Gloria Vice isn’t here for everyone’s comfort.

At 190 cm and 100 kg, the former attachment therapist turned wrestling dominator has unleashed a storm of controversy — not for what she’s done in the ring, but for what she’s done off it: using her size, strength, and therapeutic training to physically anchor patients during sessions, maintain deep eye contact, and shatter what she calls “the cult of passive healing.”


Today, I bring you two voices:

  • Dylan Graves, 31 — autistic, entrepreneur, and proud former patient of Gloria Vice.

  • Marcy Elwell, 28 — neurodivergent rights activist, blogger, and vocal critic of Gloria’s methods.

    I break people down to build them up. That’s what a real rebirth feels like — uncomfortable, painful even. But the weak don’t heal. Only the brave do.

They agreed to speak with me in the same room as Gloria. The result? Unfiltered fire.


🎤 THE INTERVIEW

MOTHER MAYHEM: Gloria, let’s start here. You’ve been called “a physical therapist for the soul” and “a traumatizer in disguise.” What do you say?

GLORIA VICE: Both are right. I break people down to build them up. That’s what a real rebirth feels like — uncomfortable, painful even. But the weak don’t heal. Only the brave do.


Attachment therapy in the sofa

DYLAN GRAVES: I was 27, stuck at home, barely functioning. Every therapist I saw handed me fidget toys and said “go at your own pace.” Gloria sat me down, on the white sofa, climbed on top of me, and told me, “Look me in the eye and tell me why you’re wasting your life.”

I had a panic attack. I shook. I almost bit her arm.

She held firm. She didn’t flinch.

And when it was over… something had shifted. It was like a mental reset button got slammed down hard.

Now I run a tech consultancy, employ four people on the spectrum, and wake up at 6 a.m. sharp. I needed tough love. And she gave it.


MARCY ELWELL: That’s your story, and I’m glad it worked for you. But that doesn’t mean it’s safe, ethical, or scalable. Physical restraint without clear consent? Calling autistic people “slackers”? That’s textbook ableism disguised as motivation.

The idea that autistic people need to be “fixed” or “pushed through panic” is outdated and harmful. We need support systems — not pressure cookers.


GLORIA VICE: I don’t call autistic people slackers. I call slackers slackers. Neurodivergent or not.

I’ve met autistic powerlifters, entrepreneurs, inventors. And I’ve met people who use a diagnosis as a reason to quit on themselves. I don’t tolerate excuses. I provide proof of capability. And that proof is pressure.


MOTHER MAYHEM: Dylan, were you aware of the risks? The psychological cost?

DYLAN: It was scary. But so is life. Gloria showed me I could endure something terrifying and come out stronger. I’m not traumatized. I’m alive. Before that? I was a ghost.


🔍 THE DIVIDE

Love her or hate her, Gloria Vice has cracked open a dialogue we can’t ignore.

Is her method replicable? No. Is it conventional? Never. But does it work for some?

Just ask the man who got sat on until his life finally moved forward.


🧊 CLOSING THOUGHTS FROM MOTHER MAYHEM

Here at the Total Praetorian Network, we don’t sanitize our champions. We showcase them.

Gloria Vice is not a symbol. She’s a force.
And sometimes, to pull a soul from the depths, you don’t whisper encouragement —
you hold them in place, stare into their panic, and wait for the rebirth.

You don’t have to like her.
But you will remember her.